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	<title>Comments on: Sydney Swans on Yahoo!Groups</title>
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		<title>By: Adelaide Dupont</title>
		<link>http://ozziesport.com/2010/01/sydney-swans-on-yahoogroups/comment-page-1/#comment-13</link>
		<dc:creator>Adelaide Dupont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 10 Jan 2010 06:58:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>No, not really. Not for the Sydney Swans, anyway.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I may recognise some for many Victorian clubs (for example: Collingwood, Essendon, Richmond, Hawthorn) and for the West Coast Eagles, as well as possibly the Brisbane Lions and Adelaide Crows.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Sydney has often been portrayed as a very GLBT-friendly city, especially because of the Mardi Gras and other events. (You may well have read about the Sydney Swans float which was established some years ago).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The AFL has tried to be inclusive in regard to female fans, who often represent 40%-50% of the support base (who actually goes to the games). There are female commentators and umpires in the elite level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;(If you had been following 2008-09, you would have heard of Kelli Underwood, who was the first female commentator on Channel Ten. Also, there is Sam Lane, who appears on several shows, like &lt;i&gt;After the Game&lt;/i&gt;).&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Geoffrey Edelsten, who used to own the Swans in the 1980s, is often considered camp.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The current CEO of the Swans is Myles Baron-Hay.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Some Presidents from other clubs, on the other hand, can be very macho, for example, John Elliott from the Carlton Blues, who was also there from the 1980s to the early 2000s.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And there are several players who have come out as gay/bisexual or have that appeal. We call them &#039;gay icons&#039;.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The current CEO, Andrew Demetriou, is talking a lot of talk about inclusivity at all levels of the game.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>No, not really. Not for the Sydney Swans, anyway.</p>
<p>I may recognise some for many Victorian clubs (for example: Collingwood, Essendon, Richmond, Hawthorn) and for the West Coast Eagles, as well as possibly the Brisbane Lions and Adelaide Crows.</p>
<p>Sydney has often been portrayed as a very GLBT-friendly city, especially because of the Mardi Gras and other events. (You may well have read about the Sydney Swans float which was established some years ago).</p>
<p>The AFL has tried to be inclusive in regard to female fans, who often represent 40%-50% of the support base (who actually goes to the games). There are female commentators and umpires in the elite level.</p>
<p>(If you had been following 2008-09, you would have heard of Kelli Underwood, who was the first female commentator on Channel Ten. Also, there is Sam Lane, who appears on several shows, like <i>After the Game</i>).</p>
<p>Geoffrey Edelsten, who used to own the Swans in the 1980s, is often considered camp.</p>
<p>The current CEO of the Swans is Myles Baron-Hay.</p>
<p>Some Presidents from other clubs, on the other hand, can be very macho, for example, John Elliott from the Carlton Blues, who was also there from the 1980s to the early 2000s.</p>
<p>And there are several players who have come out as gay/bisexual or have that appeal. We call them &#39;gay icons&#39;.</p>
<p>The current CEO, Andrew Demetriou, is talking a lot of talk about inclusivity at all levels of the game.</p>
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		<title>By: LauraH</title>
		<link>http://ozziesport.com/2010/01/sydney-swans-on-yahoogroups/comment-page-1/#comment-6</link>
		<dc:creator>LauraH</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 23:12:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>At the moment, I&#039;m not looking so much at content.  I&#039;m just looking for when the spam kicked it up and legitimate content dropped off.  I just am not Australian so I don&#039;t necessarily know enough to do a deeper analysis of other things.  (Hopefully, I can learn enough about it as I go along to be better able to contextualize events.)  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Rainbow_Swans was interesting to see, especially that it was still active as GLBT fans in the US have traditionally been marginalized or ignored.  (Sports is viewed as the domain of heterosexual maleness.  Gay and bisexual players threaten that.  Added to that, in some leagues in the US like the NFL, the ownership is VERY, VERY conservative and support conservative politicians.  It just doesn&#039;t get talked about as much because to do so would be to politicize sports in a way that could hurt their bottom lines.)  I&#039;m not sure how much that differs in Australia.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Are the people involved in these ones that you recognize?  As being influential in Australia&#039;s online sports fandom?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>At the moment, I&#39;m not looking so much at content.  I&#39;m just looking for when the spam kicked it up and legitimate content dropped off.  I just am not Australian so I don&#39;t necessarily know enough to do a deeper analysis of other things.  (Hopefully, I can learn enough about it as I go along to be better able to contextualize events.)  </p>
<p>Rainbow_Swans was interesting to see, especially that it was still active as GLBT fans in the US have traditionally been marginalized or ignored.  (Sports is viewed as the domain of heterosexual maleness.  Gay and bisexual players threaten that.  Added to that, in some leagues in the US like the NFL, the ownership is VERY, VERY conservative and support conservative politicians.  It just doesn&#39;t get talked about as much because to do so would be to politicize sports in a way that could hurt their bottom lines.)  I&#39;m not sure how much that differs in Australia.</p>
<p>Are the people involved in these ones that you recognize?  As being influential in Australia&#39;s online sports fandom?</p>
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		<title>By: Adelaide Dupont</title>
		<link>http://ozziesport.com/2010/01/sydney-swans-on-yahoogroups/comment-page-1/#comment-3</link>
		<dc:creator>Adelaide Dupont</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 08 Jan 2010 09:33:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rainbow_Swans seems particularly interesting.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;And I see that it&#039;s a list for the fans.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;On sydneyswansfc charlottehatherleysbridegroom did all the match reports. A lot of this activity was late 2001 and early 2002.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;It would be good to compare different writers on the same games at that time.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;The legitimate posting stopped in 2005 with sydneyswansfc.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;sydneyswanscentral started with El_Canguro. And there were milestones like the leaving of Lockett.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;swanniesfansunited had some interesting personal talk, along with &quot;sales and wants&quot; of footy cards from 1984-1987. (Possibly the Scanlan gum cards). By 2006 it had become overrun with spam.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;redandwhiteonline is a newsletter. I do not know whether it has the same content as the print newsletter.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I didn&#039;t see any material about Adam Goodes and the Brownlow Medal, which happened in 2006.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rainbow_Swans seems particularly interesting.</p>
<p>And I see that it&#39;s a list for the fans.</p>
<p>On sydneyswansfc charlottehatherleysbridegroom did all the match reports. A lot of this activity was late 2001 and early 2002.</p>
<p>It would be good to compare different writers on the same games at that time.</p>
<p>The legitimate posting stopped in 2005 with sydneyswansfc.</p>
<p>sydneyswanscentral started with El_Canguro. And there were milestones like the leaving of Lockett.</p>
<p>swanniesfansunited had some interesting personal talk, along with &#8220;sales and wants&#8221; of footy cards from 1984-1987. (Possibly the Scanlan gum cards). By 2006 it had become overrun with spam.</p>
<p>redandwhiteonline is a newsletter. I do not know whether it has the same content as the print newsletter.</p>
<p>I didn&#39;t see any material about Adam Goodes and the Brownlow Medal, which happened in 2006.</p>
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