Version 2: Most popular Australian athlete and team related Twitter accounts by total followers

This entry was posted by Laura on Wednesday, 10 March, 2010 at

Yesterday, I made a post about the most popular Australian athlete, league and team related Twitter accounts.

On Twitter, @anthonyalsop pointed me to a list of Australian athletes on Twitter he had created.  I had missed quite a few on his list and some of those accounts led me to lists where I found additional athletes, teams and leagues.  All told, I added about 61 new rows of data.  There are a few repeats from yesterday’s list as I updated some numbers.  (Historical twitter growth for athletes would be interesting to look at and there are tools for just that.  It is a project for a different day. Maybe.)  There doesn’t appear to be much change.

Things to remember with this list: It does not include athletes who do not play for team based sports.  Swimmers, golfers, tennis players, surfers and race car drivers are not on the list.  It also does not include Australian athletes playing for teams outside of Australia.  This includes cyclists (who are probably the most popular Australian athletes that I can find) as they often compete for teams outside Australia.  It does not include Australian NBA and WNBA players.  It also does not include retired Australian athletes, unless they are now involved in a management role with a specific team.  National teams are included but players are generally sorted by their other playing affiliation. This list does include athletes and teams from outside Australia when the league has teams from other countries.  Thus, South Africa is represented with its Super 14 teams and New Zealand is included with a variety of teams in leagues such as the NRL, Super 14 and the NBL.

  • First class cricket : New South Wales Blues : PH408 (unofficial) -10,729 (8-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Wests Tigers : LoteTuqiri (unofficial) -4,957 (9-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : Pretoria Bulls (Northern Bulls) : VictorMatfield (unofficial) -4,559 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : NRL : NRL -4,231 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Collingwood Magpies : Collingwood_FC -3,980 (8-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Essendon Bombers : Essendon_FC -3,808 (30-Dec-09)
  • AFL : Adelaide Crows : Adelaide_FC -3,696 (30-Dec-09)
  • AFL : Essendon Bombers : JobeWatson (unofficial) -3,523 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Collingwood Magpies : Collingwood_FC -3,506 (30-Dec-09)
  • Super 14 : Natal Sharks : JohnSmit123 (unofficial) -3,412 (9-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : Wellington Hurricanes : Hurricanesrugby -3,395 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Sydney Swans : sydneyswans -3,160 (30-Dec-09)
  • AFL : Essendon Bombers : AngusMonfries (unofficial) -3,052 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Melbourne Demons : jimstynes (unofficial) -3,004 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Collingwood Magpies : harry_o (unofficial) -2,712 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Collingwood Magpies : harry_o (unofficial) -2,703 (8-Mar-10)
  • AFL : St. Kilda Saints : stkildafc -2,617 (9-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : Wellington Hurricanes : neyza3 (unofficial) -2,446 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Gold Coast Titans : mat_rogers6 (unofficial) -2,219 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : St. Kilda Saints : stkildafc -2,214 (30-Dec-09)
  • AFL : Carlton Blues : Carlton_FC -1,932 (30-Dec-09)
  • AFL : Geelong Cats : Geelong_FC (unofficial) -1,856 (30-Dec-09)
  • Super 14 : Canterbury Crusaders : mornesteyn (unofficial) -1,631 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Gold Coast Titans : GCTitans -1,616 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : New Zealand Warriors (Auckland Warriors) : nzwarriors (unofficial) -1,533 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : St. George Illawarra Dragons : RealBigDell (unofficial) -1,438 (9-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Melbourne Victory : MVFCVIDEOS (unofficial) -1,432 (5-Jan-10)
  • NRL : North Queensland Cowboys : northqldcowboys -1,403 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Brisbane Broncos : BrisBroncosClub -1,365 (2-Jan-10)
  • AFL : Hawthorn Hawks : Hawks_AFL (unofficial) -1,336 (9-Mar-10)
  • First class cricket : New South Wales Blues : ClarkeVC (unofficial) -1,230 (10-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Melbourne Demons : nathan2jones (unofficial) -1,216 (9-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Melbourne Victory : gomvfc -1,185 (5-Jan-10)
  • NRL : Wests Tigers : Wests_Tigers (unofficial) -1,165 (9-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : Durban Sharks (Coastal Sharks)(Natal Sharks) : sharksrugby -1,159 (9-Mar-10)
  • National team : Socceroos : socceroos_news (unofficial) -1,099 (8-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Parramatta Eels : jarryd_hayne (unofficial) -1,078 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Richmond Tigers : Richmond_FC -1,062 (30-Dec-09)
  • AFL : North Melbourne Kangaroos : northkangaroos -1,052 (30-Dec-09)
  • AFL : Melbourne Demons : CamSchwab (unofficial) -961 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Port Adelaide Power : PAFC -946 (30-Dec-09)
  • NBL : Adelaide 36ers : Adelaide36ers -908 (8-Mar-10)
  • ANZ Championship : Melbourne Vixens : MelbourneVixens -904 (12-Jan-10)
  • First class cricket : Victorian Bushrangers : Bushrangers -895 (8-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Manly Sea Eagles : manlyseaeagles -888 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Parramatta Eels : PirtekParraEels (unofficial) -853 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Melbourne Demons : DemonsHQ -841 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Collingwood Magpies : PeterDaicos (unofficial) -838 (8-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Hawthorn Hawks : HawthornFC -823 (30-Dec-09)
  • NRL : Sydney Roosters : sydroosters (unofficial) -800 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : South Sydney Rabbitohs : SSFCRABBITOHS -761 (9-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : Wellington Hurricanes : Powza13 (unofficial) -719 (9-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : Canterbury Crusaders : crusadersrugby -717 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Brisbane Lions : ALFbrisbane (unofficial) -690 (9-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Central Coast Mariners Football Club : LawrieMcKinna (unofficial) -681 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : West Coast Eagles : WCEofficial -671 (30-Dec-09)
  • NRL : Penrith Panthers : penrithpanthers (unofficial) -644 (9-Mar-10)
  • A-League : North Queensland Fury FC : nqfuryfc -627 (5-Jan-10)
  • AFL : Melbourne Demons : DemonsHQ -624 (30-Dec-09)
  • NRL : Parramatta Eels : parramatta_eels -618 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : South Sydney Rabbitohs : rabbitohs (unofficial) -617 (9-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Melbourne Tigers : Follow24Hodge (unofficial) -612 (8-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Melbourne Storm : MelbourneStorm_ (unofficial) -605 (8-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : Queensland Reds : QuadeCooper (unofficial) -594 (9-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : Cape Town Stormers (Western Stormers) : THESTORMERS -593 (9-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Wollongong Hawks : wollongonghawks -585 (10-Mar-10)
  • First class cricket : New South Wales Blues : NBRACKEN142 (unofficial) -577 (10-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Wollongong Hawks : wollongonghawks -572 (6-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : Queensland Reds : Reds_Rugby -560 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Collingwood Magpies : collingwoodnews (unofficial) -545 (8-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : New South Wales Waratahs : HSBCWaratahs -504 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : West Coast Eagles : wingsofperth (unofficial) -503 (9-Mar-10)
  • NBL : New Zealand Breakers : johnrillie (unofficial) -474 (6-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : Queensland Reds : RedsRugby (unofficial) -460 (3-Jan-10)
  • NRL : Melbourne Storm : MelbStormRLC (unofficial) -458 (9-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Perth Wildcats : perthwildcats -457 (6-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Melbourne Victory : adrianleijer (unofficial) -454 (8-Mar-10)
  • NRL : South Sydney Rabbitohs : therabbitohs (unofficial) -448 (9-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Melbourne Victory : mitchlangerak (unofficial) -445 (8-Mar-10)
  • AFL : St. Kilda Saints : njbrown17 (unofficial) -437 (9-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : ACT Brumbies : BrumbiesRugby -436 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : New Zealand Warriors (Auckland Warriors) : thenzwarriors -434 (9-Mar-10)
  • NBL : South Dragons : Joeingles7 (unofficial) -431 (6-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Fremantle Dockers : FremantleFC (unofficial) -427 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : North Melbourne Kangaroos : andrewswallow (unofficial) -417 (9-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Central Coast Mariners Football Club : LawrieMcKinna -414 (5-Jan-10)
  • NRL : Gold Coast Titans : AshHarrison1 (unofficial) -410 (9-Mar-10)
  • ANZ Championship : Melbourne Vixens : SharelleVixens -400 (12-Jan-10)
  • A-League : Melbourne Victory : victoryinmelb -392 (5-Jan-10)
  • AFL : Fremantle Dockers : Freo_Dockers (unofficial) -388 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Collingwood Magpies : bigdyman (unofficial) -376 (8-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Adelaide United : adelaideunited -376 (5-Jan-10)
  • A-League : Wellington Phoenix : wgtnphoenixfc -376 (5-Jan-10)
  • AFL : Gold Coast Football Club : GoldCoastFC -373 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Brisbane Lions : AFLbrisbanelion -363 (30-Dec-09)
  • National team : Socceroos : Socceroos -353 (8-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Gold Coast Titans : lukeodwyer (unofficial) -348 (9-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Newcastle Jets : newcastle_jets -338 (5-Jan-10)
  • Super 14 : Natal Sharks : KeeganDaniel (unofficial) -333 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : St. George Illawarra Dragons : mighty_dragons (unofficial) -316 (9-Mar-10)
  • Basketball Australia : Australian Boomers : aussieboomers -307 (9-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Brisbane Roar : BNERoar (unofficial) -300 (5-Jan-10)
  • A-League : Sydney FC : SFCNews (unofficial) -297 (5-Jan-10)
  • A-League : Brisbane Roar : BNERoar (unofficial) -296 (3-Jan-10)
  • NRL : Parramatta Eels : PlanetEels (unofficial) -293 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : West Coast Eagles : WestCoastEagles (unofficial) -291 (9-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Melbourne Tigers : Wortho33 (unofficial) -285 (6-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Fremantle Dockers : Fremantle_FC -282 (30-Dec-09)
  • NBL : Wollongong Hawks : milisimic (unofficial) -272 (8-Mar-10)
  • First class cricket : Tassie Tigers : crickettas -271 (8-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Brisbane Broncos : BrisbaneBronco (unofficial) -270 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks : SharksOnline (unofficial) -263 (9-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Townsville Crocodiles : TsvCrocs -259 (6-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Townsville Crocodiles : TsvCrocs -259 (8-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Perth Wildcats : nickmarvin (unofficial) -251 (8-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Hawthorn Hawks : LanceFranklin (unofficial) -250 (9-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Townsville Crocodiles : chomicide (unofficial) -237 (6-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Cairns Taipans : Dusty_Rychart (unofficial) -234 (8-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Adelaide United : adelaidereds -231 (5-Jan-10)
  • NRL : Parramatta Eels : blueandgoldarmy (unofficial) -225 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Melbourne Demons : MelbourneFC (unofficial) -223 (9-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Brisbane Roar : brisbaneroar -221 (3-Jan-10)
  • NRL : Wests Tigers : beauryan_winger (unofficial) -215 (9-Mar-10)
  • First class cricket : Queensland Bulls : andrew_symonds (unofficial) -215 (10-Mar-10)
  • ANZ Championship : Queensland Firebirds : laurafirebirds (unofficial) -213 (3-Jan-10)
  • NSW Premier League : Sydney Olympic : MarkBosnich (unofficial) -208 (9-Mar-10)
  • ANZ Championship : Adelaide Thunderbirds : NatTbirds -205 (12-Jan-10)
  • NRL : Canberra Raiders : RaidersCanberra -202 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : West Coast Eagles : MitchJbrown17 (unofficial) -198 (9-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Perth Glory : PerthGlory_FC -190 (5-Jan-10)
  • First class cricket : New South Wales Blues : eddiecowan (unofficial) -183 (10-Mar-10)
  • NBL : New Zealand Breakers : oscarforman (unofficial) -177 (6-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Sydney FC : SydneyFC0910 -174 (5-Jan-10)
  • Netball Victoria : Netball Victoria : netballvic -174 (12-Jan-10)
  • First class cricket : South Australian Redbacks (Southern Redbacks) : RedbacksT20 -173 (8-Mar-10)
  • ANZ Championship : New South Wales Swifts : SusanSwifts -160 (12-Jan-10)
  • NBL : Perth Wildcats : TheRealSchensh (unofficial) -154 (6-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Perth Wildcats : TheRealSchensh (unofficial) -154 (8-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Townsville Crocodiles : rustyhinder (unofficial) -153 (6-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Melbourne Victory : victorytwit (unofficial) -144 (5-Jan-10)
  • NRL : Parramatta Eels : 1eyedeel (unofficial) -143 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Essendon Bombers : essendonfc (unofficial) -143 (9-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : Melbourne Rebels : melbournerebels -141 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Gold Coast Football Club : GoldCoastFC -139 (30-Dec-09)
  • WNBL : WNBL : -138 (10-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Brisbane Broncos : broncosbigfan (unofficial) -137 (9-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : ACT Brumbies : Hoilesy (unofficial) -133 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Brisbane Lions : AFLBrisbaneFC -126 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : South Sydney Rabbitohs : benross23 (unofficial) -124 (9-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : Western Australia Force (Western Force) : s14_force -118 (9-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Adelaide 36ers : jgovereasy (unofficial) -110 (6-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Melbourne Demons : jordiemck (unofficial) -102 (9-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : Central Cheetahs (Vodacom Cheetahs) : VodacomCheetahs -102 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Hawthorn Hawks : bmsew (unofficial) -100 (9-Mar-10)
  • VFL : Casey Scorpions : CaseyScorpions -100 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Sydney Swans : BionicSwan (unofficial) -99 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : North Melbourne Kangaroos : Marcus__White (unofficial) -99 (9-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : Queensland Reds : s14_queensland (unofficial) -99 (3-Jan-10)
  • First class cricket : Victorian Bushrangers : petersiddle (unofficial) -99 (10-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Cronulla-Sutherland Sharks : Fergo1990 (unofficial) -97 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Wests Tigers : fakebrycegibbs (unofficial) -93 (9-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Gold Coast United : GCUSC -92 (5-Jan-10)
  • NRL : Brisbane Broncos : broncobasher (unofficial) -91 (9-Mar-10)
  • Rugby League/State of Origin : Queensland Maroons : QLD_Maroons -91 (3-Jan-10)
  • ANZ Championship : New South Wales Swifts : nswswifts -90 (12-Jan-10)
  • VFL : North Ballarat Roosters : NB_Roosters -90 (9-Mar-10)
  • Rugby League/State of Origin : New South Wales Blues : NSWRL -88 (9-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Adelaide 36ers : DarrenNg8 (unofficial) -86 (6-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Melbourne Victory : mvfcfanzone -84 (5-Jan-10)
  • NSW Premier League : Sydney United : addsie (unofficial) -83 (8-Mar-10)
  • Super 14 : Queensland Reds : ezytaylor (unofficial) -83 (9-Mar-10)
  • Australia Athletics : Australian Flames (national team) : australianflame -83 (9-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Central Coast Mariners Football Club : CCMarinersFC (unofficial) -82 (5-Jan-10)
  • NBL : New Zealand Breakers : NZBreakers -79 (9-Mar-10)
  • First class cricket : Queensland Bulls : qldcricket -72 (8-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Townsville Crocodiles : JoshJenkins24 (unofficial) -72 (6-Mar-10)
  • Netball Australia : Netball Australia : NetballAust -72 (12-Jan-10)
  • Netball Australia : Australian Diamonds (national team) : AussieDiamonds -71 (12-Jan-10)
  • ANZ Championship : West Coast Fever : SusanWCFever -66 (12-Jan-10)
  • Gridiron Australia Nationals : WA Raiders : fatloaf (unofficial) -65 (8-Mar-10)
  • Gridiron Australia Nationals : Perth Blitz : fatloaf (unofficial) -65 (8-Mar-10)
  • ANZ Championship : Adelaide Thunderbirds : AdelaideTBirds -62 (12-Jan-10)
  • NBL : Adelaide 36ers : BenFitz (unofficial) -62 (6-Mar-10)
  • NRL : St. George Illawarra Dragons : jsaffy (unofficial) -60 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Western Bulldogs : ccaallward (unofficial) -57 (9-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Adelaide 36ers : 36ers (unofficial) -51 (6-Mar-10)
  • Semi Professional Basketball League : Semi Professional Basketball League : SEABL -50 (10-Mar-10)
  • A-League : Sydney FC : SydneyFC -44 (5-Jan-10)
  • NBL : South (Melbourne) Dragons : SAVEOURDRAGONS (unofficial) -44 (10-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Sydney Kings : sydneykings -43 (8-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Collingwood Magpies : VictoriaParkHC (unofficial) -42 (8-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Balmain Tigers : tigers1908 (unofficial) -42 (9-Mar-10)
  • WNBL : Dandenong Jayco Rangers : jennaohea (unofficial) -42 (10-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Fremantle Dockers : ryanmcrowley (unofficial) -41 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Gold Coast Titans : Aaron_Cannings (unofficial) -41 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Newcastle Knights : Corypato (unofficial) -41 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Melbourne Demons : matesOmelbourne (unofficial) -39 (9-Mar-10)
  • NRL : Manly Sea Eagles : gorgeousgrose (unofficial) -39 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Richmond Tigers : yellow_n_black (unofficial) -38 (8-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Townsville Crocodiles : Kegs42 (unofficial) -38 (6-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Essendon Bombers : bomberblitz (unofficial) -37 (9-Mar-10)
  • Claxton Shield : Barbagallo Perth Heat : PerthHeat -35 (3-Jan-10)
  • NBL : Townsville Crocodiles : willo43 (unofficial) -35 (8-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Gold Coast Blaze : Vandy21 (unofficial) -33 (6-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Gold Coast Blaze : Vandy21 (unofficial) -33 (8-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Melbourne Demons : demonwiki (unofficial) -33 (9-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Wollongong Hawks : danjackson9 (unofficial) -32 (8-Mar-10)
  • Netball New South Wales : : Sydney_Netball -31 (12-Jan-10)
  • AFL : St. Kilda Saints : RWBFooty (unofficial) -26 (9-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Fremantle Dockers : briansham (unofficial) -22 (9-Mar-10)
  • Netball New South Wales : Petersham RUFC Netball Club : PetershamNetbal -22 (12-Jan-10)
  • Brisbane Netball Association : ACE Netball Club : ACENetball -21 (12-Jan-10)
  • WNBL : Dandenong Jayco Rangers : JaycoRangers -21 (10-Mar-10)
  • Plenty Valley Netball Association : Orcas Netball : Orcas_Netball -20 (12-Jan-10)
  • NRL : Parramatta Eels : parraeels (unofficial) -19 (9-Mar-10)
  • Basketball Australia: Australian Opals: AustralianOpals – 19 (9-Mar-10)
  • NSW Premier League : Manly United : ManlyUnited -18 (8-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Townsville Crocodiles : ToffCedar (unofficial) -17 (8-Mar-10)
  • VFL : Port Melbourne Borough : BoroughBoy (unofficial) -14 (9-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Townsville Crocodiles : cameronwhiting (unofficial) -13 (6-Mar-10)
  • AFL : Fremantle Dockers : bc8977 (unofficial) -10 (9-Mar-10)
  • WNBL : Logan Thunder : loganthunder -8 (10-Mar-10)
  • NBL : Adelaide 36ers : brad_393 (unofficial) -5 (8-Mar-10)
  • Gridiron Australia Nationals : Perth Blitz : perthblitz -1 (9-Mar-10)If there is anyone  I missed, or anything that really surprised you, let me know.
  • Updated this list on the 11th to include the Australian Opals thanks to a comment by @SportingSheilas.

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      Do you have any details of the Twittergate scandal? I've not heard of it.

      The NRL and AFL might actually have more players. It might just be hard to identify them as they may not appear on lists that people have compiled of players and accounts interested in those teams. Considering how many players there are though, it does look a bit small… though as more Australians are apparently on Facebook, I am not necessarily surprised. Compared to the US, there is a much smaller possible population and less penetration by the service. If we were looking at Facebook, some of this might be a bit different. (Though with Facebook, you have to agree to be friends, so the total people would likely be much smaller. I just think the total number of athletes would be higher.)

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