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Facebook groups and fanpages redux

Posted by Laura on Wednesday, 31 March, 2010

One of the things I’ve been doing recently is trying to compile a list of fans and members of groups on Facebook.  My interest in doing so is to get a general geographic idea of what teams are popular where.  I’m also interested in seeing if certain universities, colleges and high schools lean more towards one team or league.  Read to that, I’m looking at what universities, colleges and high schools could be deemed the most sports made by the total members of a network.

The problem is that Facebook does not make getting this information easy.  I manually go through the lists.  I copy/paste to notepad, format it and copy it to Excel.  Facebook drops people.  An example of this? Western Force.  It has 3,128 fans.  When I copied and pasted everything, the total people on my list was 1,927.  There is a lot of dropping going on here and I’m not certain what effect it has on the results.

These issues regarding totals are one of the most problematic aspects of trying to do any sort of demographic study of online sports fandom that is in any way accurate and capable of duplication.

If you’re interested, based on the following groups and fan pages… The NAB Northern Bullants appreciation society, Townsville McDonald’s Crocodiles, Waikato/BOP Magic Netball, 1,000 people for Tassie Tigers to offer Rana Naved-Ul-Hasan a full Contract, 10,000 people for the tassie tigers to offer Michael Hogan a contract , Aaron Edwards Fan page, ACT Brumbies, act brumbies, Adelaide 36ers, Adelaide 36ers are the greatest team of ANY kind EVER!!, Adelaide 36ers Fan Zone, Adelaide 36ers National Basketball Team, Adelaide Thunderbirds , Barbagallo Perth Heat Baseball Club, Bendigo Bombers Football Club, Bentleigh Cricket Club, Borough Boys, Borough Supporters Club, Bring Allen Iverson to the Adelaide 36ers!, Bring Dusty Rychart back to the Adelaide 36ers ~ beg, plead, grovel ;p, Cairns Taipans , Canberra Raiders, Canterbury Tactix, Carlton Blues FC, Croc Nation, Crocs to take the NBL title, Daniel Jackson – TIGER TUFF!, Eaglehawk Football Netball Club, Early 90′s Perth Wildcats appreciation group, Fire Roster, Fitzroy Reds Football Club, Frankston Dolphins Football club, FRANKSTON DOLPHINS FOOTBALL CLUB, Fremantle Dockers : Rebuilding since 1995, Fremantle Dockers : Rebuilding since 1995, Geelong Cats, Go the Perth wildcats , Gold Coast BlazeGold Coast Football Club, Greeks who support Richmond F.C the Tigers, I’m a Fitzroy Reds Premiership hero, Law Hawks, Matt Johns to coach the Newcastle Knights in 2010! , Melbourne Tigers, Melbourne Tigers, Melbourne Tigers – Big V Basketball, melbourne tigers all the way in 2008, Melbourne Tigers Basketball Club, Melbourne Tigers cheer squeda east and south ends , Melbourne Tigers NBL HUMMER CHAMPIONS 2007/08, Melbourne Tigers NBL supporters, Melbourne Vixens, Melbourne Vixens, Melbourne-based Wests Tigers Fanatics, New South Wales Patriots , New Zealand Breakers, No matter how bad they are, I will still barrack for the Richmond Tigers! , North Ballarat Cricket Club, North Melbourne Football Club, North Melbourne Football Club, Northern Bullants Football Club, Northern Bullants Under 18′s, Northern Mystics, Northern Mystics Fans, Official Gold Coast Blaze, Official Perth Wildcats, Perth Wildcats, Perth Wildcats, Perth Wildcats (Catties Fans), perth wildcats fans, Perth Wildcats Wildkidz! (:, Port Melbourne Football Club, port melbourne the mighty borough fan club, Pulse Netball, Queensland Bulls, Queensland Bulls Supporters, Queensland Firebirds, Queensland Rams (ABL) Baseball, Queensland Rams Baseball, Sandringham Football Club (Zebras), SAVE OUR MELBOURNE TIGERS NBL TEAM , THIS SEASON., Save Our South Dragons:www., SCONE THOROUGHBREDS RUGBY LEAGUE CLUB, SEABL, Selkirk Roosters – North Ballarat Football Club, South Dragons 2008/09 Nbl Champions, South Melbourne Dragons, Southern Steel, Southern Steel, SUPPORT THE CANTERBURY TACTIX WITH TIC TACS, Sydney Swifts, Tassie Tigers Hockey – Top 4 three years in a row, the fitzroy reds convention for headaches and regrets., The Melbourne Tigers Fan Group, The Official Adelaide 36ers Page, The Official Bendigo Spirit Basketball, Thunderbirds Adelaide Netball Club Appreciation Community, Thunderbirds are GO in the 2009 grand final!, TOWNSVILLE FIRE, Townsville McCafe Fire, Trent Cotchin, Victoria Aces ABL Baseball, Waratahs 2008, Werribee Amateur Football Club, Werribee Football Club , Werribee Tigers FC, West Coast Fever, West Coast Fever, Western Force, Wests Tigers NYC, WNBL – Bendigo Spirit, WNBL – Canberra Capitals, Wollongong Hawks, Wllongong Hawks, Wollongong Roller Hawks, and XXXX gold Queensland bulls!.

All told, there are 3,297 people of the 34,057 people included list a network.  There are 1,078 unique networks. If Facebook wasn’t dropping things, the total people included would be 61,340. Given that, the following networks are the most popular:

Network Total members
Monash 83
University of Melbourne 74
Deakin 67
James Cook 65
State Government of Victoria 56
La Trobe University 50
UWA 49
Australian National 46
Edith Cowan 40
Curtin 39
Adelaide 35
Canberra Grammar School 33
Kardinia International College 31
Queensland Tech 29
Victoria AU 28
Swinburne 28
Notre Dame AU 26
Canberra 26
Tasmania 25
Christian College 25
Queensland 24
Flinders 24
Belmont High School 24
South Australia 23
Scotch College 22
Griffith 19
Bond 19
UOW 18
The Geelong College 17
Telstra 17
Murdoch 16
Xavier College 14
Marist College Canberra 14
Scone High School 13
Matthew Flinders Girls Secondary College 13
Geelong Grammar School 13
Ballarat 13
Wesley College 12
Willetton Senior High School 11
University of Sydney 11
The Friends’ School 11
Presbyterian Ladies’ College 11
Parade College 11
Grovedale College 11
Daramalan College 11
Broadford Secondary College 11
Vermont Secondary College 10
National Australia Bank 10
Catholic College Bendigo 10
Whittlesea Secondary College 9
University High School 9
Marcellin College 9
John Paul College 9
Charles Sturt University 9
Western Heights College 8
Unley High School 8
Taroona High School 8
St Edmund’s College Canberra 8
Sacred Heart College 8
Pulteney Grammar School 8
Newman College 8
Newcastle 8
Lilydale High School 8
AU Catholic 8
Woodvale Senior High School 7
University of New England 7
The Heights School 7
St Clare’s College 7
Salesian College Rupertswood 7
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Padua College 7
Otago 7
Loyola College 7
Frankston High School 7
Emmaus College 7
Cornerstone College 7
Carey Baptist Grammar School 7
BHP Billiton 7
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Balaklava High School 7
Aquinas College 7
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St Ignatius College, Riverview 6
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Birmingham UK 6
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ANZ Championship on Facebook’s fanpages and groups

Posted by Laura on Saturday, 30 January, 2010

bebo, blogger, LiveJournal and LiveJournal clones all have relatively small communities when compared to Facebook. It bothers me sometimes because to understand the size and shape of the online fan community on popular social networks almost requires looking at the site if I want to be accurate. The data you get from the advertising information is interesting but limited. Looking at fanpage and group membership is even more limited but at least you can get names and a better feel for location. I decided to do that for ANZ Championship teams. (There are just too many NRL and AFL and even NBL related groups for me to want to tackle at the moment.) I found the following list of groups and fan pages:

  • Adelaide Thunderbirds – ANZ Championship: Adelaide Thunderbirds
  • Thunderbirds Adelaide Netball Club Appreciation Community – ANZ Championship: Adelaide Thunderbirds
  • Thunderbirds are GO in the 2009 grand final! – ANZ Championship: Adelaide Thunderbirds
  • Canterbury Tactix – ANZ Championship: Canterbury Tactix
  • Pulse Netball – ANZ Championship: Central Pulse
  • Melbourne Vixens – ANZ Championship: Melbourne Vixens
  • Melbourne Vixens – ANZ Championship: Melbourne Vixens
  • Melbourne Vixens – ANZ Championship: Melbourne Vixens
  • Northern Mystics – ANZ Championship: Northern Mystics
  • Northern Mystics Fans – ANZ Championship: Northern Mystics
  • Queensland Firebirds – ANZ Championship: Queensland Firebirds
  • Southern Steel – ANZ Championship: Southern Steel
  • southern steel – ANZ Championship: Southern Steel
  • Sydney Swifts – ANZ Championship: Sydney Swifts
  • Waikato/BOP Magic Netball – ANZ Championship: Waikato Bay of Plenty Magic
  • West Coast Fever – ANZ Championship: West Coast Fever
  • West Coast Fever – ANZ Championship: West Coast Fever
  • Some of these groups have as many as 1,000 members and some have as few as 13. I went looked at the membership list, found the people who belonged to specific networks, identified the location of that network and then created a map based on those. Some cases, like for corporations, have no city specific location and some of the schools on the list are affiliated with bigger towns near them. The map below differs a fair bit from the similar map for to the one for bebo, blogger and Facebook. The major difference? Regional fannishness is much, more more apparent on Facebook.

    ANZ Championship on Facebook

    Overview map

    ANZ Championship on Facebook

    Adelaide Thunderbirds
    Canterbury Tactix
    Melbourne Vixens
    Northern Mystics
    Queensland Firebirds
    West Coast Fever

    ANZ Championship on Facebook: New Zealand

    Overview map

    ANZ Championship on Facebook

    Adelaide Thunderbirds
    Canterbury Tactix
    Melbourne Vixens
    Northern Mystics
    Queensland Firebirds
    West Coast Fever

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    ANZ Championship fandom location on LiveJournal, bebo and blogger

    Posted by Laura on Thursday, 28 January, 2010

    I’m playing with Microsoft MapPoint. It is pretty awesome, except for the fact that some smaller cities don’t register. Anyway, I finished compiling the location of all fans of ANZ Champship teams on bebo, blogger, LiveJournal and LiveJournal clones. Interest in this particular competition is small compared to the NRL, AFL and A-League. For a few people, fans didn’t list a city which makes getting an accurate idea of where fans are difficult. Two cities didn’t appear as they were really, really rural so they were excluded. I took this data and the output was the following map.

    ANZ Championship

    Overview map

    Australia Test by City

    Adelaide Thunderbirds
    Melbourne Vixens
    New South Wales Swifts (Sydney Swifts)
    Northern Mystics
    Southern Steel
    Sydney Swifts

    The map has that limited perspective because there were no Queensland based fans. That includes people who just listed state, not city. The same situation existed for Western Australia, Tasmania, the ACT and Northern Territory.

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    New South Wales Swifts on LiveJournal, bebo and Yahoo!Groups

    Posted by Laura on Thursday, 14 January, 2010

    The New South Wales Swifts were originally the Sydney Swifts and part of the Commonwealth Bank Trophy.  When the event change and became the ANZ Championship and became more of a state versus state netball competition, the team’s name change.  The team names are used interchangably here depending on the original usage.

    The team has been discussed in an earlier post about the size of the ANZ Championship community on Twitter.  This post will look into the specific community dedicated to the New South Wales Swifts on LiveJournal, bebo and Yahoo!Groups.

    There is one group dedicated to the Sydney Swifts on Yahoo!Groups.  It was created on May 16, 2001 and currently has 50 members.  The group has been neglected and been the subject of spam starting in 2005.  Prior to that, discussion on the list had ended in March 2002 (with the admin having deleted three spam e-mails in November 2003).  There were 84 legitimate posts to the list in this period.  Graphing it, the posting volume looks like:

    This posting pattern is similar to that of the some of the less active AFL teams on Yahoo!Groups.  I joined the list to find out membership demographic information.  Only eleven of the current members joined when there was active posting to the list.  Ten people joined in the period with no posting, and the other 29 joined during periods of active spamming.   Of the 50, only four listed their demographic information.  When the list was active, the person who listed their age has 21, female and Australian.  After the period of active spam, the three people listing demographic information were all male and older.  Of the two who listed their country of residence, neither listed Australia.    (For the totals on Yahoo!Groups on my chart, this will listed at 50, despite the the fact that  only 21 or so are probably legitimately interested in the team.  At the moment, I do not have the time and ability to join every team related mailing list to determine who is and is not a legitimate poster based on join date.)

    On LiveJournal, there are two people who list the Sydney Swifts as an interest and zero who list the New South Wales Swifts as an interest.  Of the two, one updated a week ago, is 22 and from New South Wales.  The other has not updated in 162 weeks and does not list a country of residence.

    There are four people who list the Sydney Swifts as an interest on bebo and zero who list the New South Wales Swifts as an interest.  Only one lists their age, 20.  The other three list their location and all are based i New South Wales.

    The community on Twitter is the largest, with 90 people following the official team account.  Facebook, surprisingly, has no one listing the team as an interest.  Yahoo!Groups probably legitimately had the second largest following with 21 if we only count back in the day.  The fact that bebo and LiveJournal both have bigger interest than Facebook is also surprising.

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    Commonwealth Bank Trophy teams on Facebook

    Posted by Laura on Sunday, 10 January, 2010

    The Commonwealth Bank Trophy is the premiere competition in Australia for women’s netball.  The competition has ten teams.  They are:

    • Adelaide Thunderbirds
    • AIS Canberra Darters
    • Hunter Jaegers
    • Melbourne Kestrels
    • Melbourne Phoenix
    • Perth Orioles
    • Queensland Firebirds
    • Sydney Swifts

    Given the popularity netball for women in Australia, with 389,400 women having participated in 2002, I would have suspected some interest in the premiere competition on Facebook.  Yet according to Facebook’s Advertising targeting, no one is interested in any of those teams.  This with 60,200 people interested in netball by Australians on Facebook.   Most of the fans are female: 53,920 or 89.5%.  Interest in Australia’s national netball team is at 1,580 with 1,360 being female.  This interest in the sport and in the national team just is not translating into interest in teams in the major competition.

    Edited to add: My bad.  This competition came to an end in 2007.  While Facebook has some fans in defunct teams, two years later it isn’t that surprising that there are not people interested in these teams as Facebook penetration is Australia is slower than it was in the United States, where people may have listed interests years ago and never got around to updating them.

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