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Popularity of Australian sports leagues across various social networks

Posted by Laura on Saturday, 13 March, 2010

I’ve been checking the number of people who list a team as an interest across a number of social networks.  Yesterday, for networks where I had information on 215 teams I have on my list, I added together the number of people who listed a team as an interest in various leagues.  I got the following table.

League Total DW DJ JF IJ Blurty Inksome CrazyLife LiveJournal Blogger Facebook Twitter Gaia Online
AFL 266883 7 3 4 13 7 1 5 613 168 239480 26582 1
AFL Canberra 2 1 1
A-League 73559 90 44 69060 4363 2
ANZ Championship 2200 5 860 1335
Australia Athletics 83 83
Basketball Australia 326 326
Brisbane Netball Association 21 21
Claxton Shield 1615 1580 35
Commonwealth Bank Trophy 3 2 1
First class cricket 34573 1 1 3 29 22400 12140
Gridiron Australia Nationals 66 66
NBL 7899 1 1 1 30 5 4220 3641
Netball Australia 1651 1580 71
Netball New South Wales 22 22
NRL 180242 7 7 2 8 411 78 167585 12138 6
NSW Premier League 316 1 4 311
Plenty Valley Netball Association 20 20
Rugby League/State of Origin 61519 1 1 18 61320 179
Super 14 49838 1 1 1 85 5 37460 12284 1
VFL 208 3 1 204
Victorian Amateur Football Association 1 1
WNBL 38 9 29
Women’s Flat Track Derby Association 760 760

Interesting to see what networks have what populations.  The WNBL is only really an interest on 2 networks while the AFL is present on every network.  These networks all have different population sizes so total numbers is really apple to oranges in some ways.  I then decided to rank the leagues by how popular they were on each network.  The most popular league ranks 1, the next most popular league ranks 2.  If there is a tie, they share the same rank.  The results of that are in the following table:

League Blogger Blurty Crazy
Life
Dreamwidth Dead
Journal
Facebook Gaia Online Inksome Insane
Journal
Journal
Fen
Inksome Live
Journal
Twitter Average
rank
Total people
AFL 1 2 1 1 2 1 3 1 1 1 1 1 1 1.30 266884
NRL 2 1 1 1 2 1 2 2 4 1.77 180242
First class cricket 3 2 6 1 1 6 3 3.14 34574
A-League 3 3 2 3 5 3.2 73559
Super 14 4 3 3 3 5 3 4 2 3.37 49838
NBL 4 3 3 3 7 5 6 4.42 7899
Rugby League/State of Origin 3 4 2 7 11 5.4 61519
NSW Premier League 3 10 9 7.33 316
AFL Canberra 2 13 7.5 2
Basketball Australia 8 8 326
ANZ Championship 10 9 7 8.66 2200
Commonwealth Bank Trophy 6 12 9 3
VFL 6 11 10 9 208
Netball Australia 8 13 10.5 1651
Women’s Flat Track Derby Association 11 11 760
WNBL 8 16 12 38
Claxton Shield 9 15 12 1615
Australia Athletics 12 12 83
Victorian Amateur Football Association 13 13 1
Gridiron Australia Nationals 14 14 66
Netball New South Wales 17 17 22
Brisbane Netball Association 18 18 21
Plenty Valley Netball Association 19 19 20

This table is a bit more interesting.  Across most networks, the AFL is the most popular league.  The NRL is the second most popular league.  First class cricket, compromising state cricket teams, is the third most popular.  The A-League and Super 14 are close behind.  When you get down near the bottom, patterns become interesting.  The WNBL is not as popular as Women’s Flat Track Derby Association.  This is largely a result of the large number of fans on Facebook.  AFL Canberra is also more popular than the VFL.  This is because of the high rank on JournalFen.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_attendance_figures_at_domestic_professional_sports_leagues lists the attendance by league for six Australian sports leagues in 2009.  I cannot find a better list of attendance data for Australian sports league, especially the minor leagues.  That makes the rest of this analysis a bit problematic but moving forward anyway… This data is then put into the following table:

League Average rank Total people Total attendance 2009 Average attendance 2009
AFL 1.30 266884 6370350 36195
NRL 1.77 180242 3084481 16065
Super 14 3.2 49838 2021376 21504
A-League 3.37 73559 1166966 12966
NBL 3.14 7899 644976 3665
First class cricket 4.42 34574 308590 18153

For total number of people attending during the course of a season, it certainly seems to track with the average league rank on the social networks in this sample.  Total people and total attendance seems to track some too.  I ran the correlation to confirm these observations:

Total attendance 2009 Average attendance 2009
Average rank -0.892632665 -0.511836009
Total people 0.949552518 0.769754845

Total attendance does correlate meaningfully.  Average attendance isn’t as meaningful but the correlation is still relatively strong.  There is a relationship there.

I’ve found that similar relationships exist with American baseball teams.  The issue of course is: Cause and effect.  Does high fan attendance lead to more fans listing their teams as an interest on social media? Or does becoming interested in a team on social media sites lead people to attending games?  It feels like the first but I have no evidence either way.

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NBL on Twitter

Posted by Laura on Monday, 8 March, 2010

I have spent about three hours looking through various lists to find official NBL twitter accounts, NBL fansites, and accounts for NBL management and players.  NBL lists on Twitter are a bit different than comparable lists for say the A-League and even the Claxton Shield.  They contain a lot more fans of a team, players that used to play in the NBL  (but have gone to Europe or the US), sports management students, and journalists.  It looks like if you mention the NBL, some people will add you to the list.   To make sure I found actual player accounts on those lists, I compared names on accounts to the NBL player list and the Wikipedia player list.

I recorded if it was the official team account, or an unofficial account.  Unofficial accounts are player, management or fansite accounts.  I also recorded the number of followers an account had.  Who are the most popular players on Twitter?  What are the most popular teams?

Team Account Date collected Total followers
Adelaide 36ers Adelaide36ers 8-Mar-10 908
Melbourne Tigers Follow24Hodge (unofficial) 8-Mar-10 612
Wollongong Hawks wollongonghawks 6-Mar-10 572
New Zealand Breakers johnrillie (unofficial) 6-Mar-10 474
Perth Wildcats perthwildcats 6-Mar-10 457
South Dragons Joeingles7 (unofficial) 6-Mar-10 431
Melbourne Tigers Wortho33 (unofficial) 6-Mar-10 285
Wollongong Hawks milisimic (unofficial) 8-Mar-10 272
Townsville Crocodiles TsvCrocs 6-Mar-10 259
Perth Wildcats nickmarvin (unofficial) 8-Mar-10 251
Townsville Crocodiles chomicide (unofficial) 6-Mar-10 237
Cairns Taipans Dusty_Rychart (unofficial) 8-Mar-10 234
New Zealand Breakers oscarforman (unofficial) 6-Mar-10 177
Perth Wildcats TheRealSchensh (unofficial) 6-Mar-10 154
Townsville Crocodiles rustyhinder (unofficial) 6-Mar-10 153
Adelaide 36ers jgovereasy (unofficial) 6-Mar-10 110
Adelaide 36ers DarrenNg8 (unofficial) 6-Mar-10 86
Townsville Crocodiles JoshJenkins24 (unofficial) 6-Mar-10 72
Adelaide 36ers BenFitz (unofficial) 6-Mar-10 62
Adelaide 36ers 36ers (unofficial) 6-Mar-10 51
Sydney Kings sydneykings 8-Mar-10 43
Townsville Crocodiles Kegs42 (unofficial) 6-Mar-10 38
Townsville Crocodiles willo43 (unofficial) 8-Mar-10 35
Gold Coast Blaze Vandy21 (unofficial) 6-Mar-10 33
Wollongong Hawks danjackson9 (unofficial) 8-Mar-10 32
Townsville Crocodiles ToffCedar (unofficial) 8-Mar-10 17
Townsville Crocodiles cameronwhiting (unofficial) 6-Mar-10 13
Adelaide 36ers brad_393 (unofficial) 8-Mar-10 5

One thing that surprised me was that not every team had an official account.  It seems like they should have one, if only to squat on it to protect their future potential assets.

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NBL vs. A-League on Twitter

Posted by Laura on Saturday, 6 March, 2010

I’m not doing much of an analysis here as I’m still gathering data.  One difference between these two leagues that I see right off the bat is the type of presence.  For the A-League, there are a number of accounts created by fans dedicated to teams.  There are a few player and coach accounts for the A-League but not many.  The fan based accounts are just bigger, have more followers and appear more important to the fandom.

In comparison, the NBL appears to have a large number of players on Twitter.  In some cases, the players appear to be at have decided to have staked out their own user name, if only to have it.  Some engage but many don’t have images.  A few have their tweets protected.  Most don’t have branded backgrounds or even list that they are playing in the NBL.

That’s a big difference.  Is this a result of league policy regarding the use of social media?  Or is it a difference in sports culture, where NBL basketball players are say modeling NBA players and A-League players are emulating their European and America peers who appear to be less active on social networks?

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LiveJournal: Interest in leagues by location

Posted by Laura on Wednesday, 3 March, 2010

I finally finished compiling a list of LiveJournal and clones users who list various teams as an interest. The issues in doing this and other maps have been discussed in earlier posts. Not all cities are picked up by the software, not everyone lists the city they live in are two of the big ones. People can list multiple teams in the same league as interests (and thus be counted twice) or the same team as an interest across multiple clones (again, counted twice).

While teams from many leagues were looked at, not all those teams had people listing them as an interest and where the individual listed their city of residence. The following leagues did though: AFL, AFL Canberra, A-League, ANZ Championship, First class cricket, NBL, NRL, NSW Premier League, Rugby League/State of Origin, Super 14, and Victorian Amateur Football Association. To make the map more readable, some of the least represented leagues were left off the map.

The following map was created using MapPoint:

Australian interest in leagues by city on LiveJournal

Overview map

Play by City

220
15
1
AFL
A-League
NBL
NRL
Super 14

The map clearly shows a geographic preference in New South Wales for the NRL.  Victoria clearly prefers the AFL.  The rest of the country tends to also support the AFL.  The pattern of geographic distribution for fans of these leagues appears to fit patterns I have seen described elsewhere.  It will be interesting to see if these patterns hold for bebo.

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NBL on Facebook

Posted by Laura on Wednesday, 10 February, 2010

I’m still looking at the NBL and this time, I’m looking at people interested in the teams on Facebook.   Today, using the Create Ad page, I set the variables for all with the exception of the country.  That I set for Australia.  I got the following table:

NBL on Facebook

League Interest Facebook
NBL Adelaide 36ers 2,200
NBL Brisbane Bullets 0
NBL Cairns Taipans 0
NBL Gold Coast Blaze 0
NBL Melbourne Tigers 0
NBL New Zealand Breakers 0
NBL Perth Wildcats 2,020
NBL Townsville Crocodiles 0
NBL Wollongong Hawks 0

There aren’t any particular patterns here that can be readily explained such as higher interest in teams from non-major leagues existing outside of Victoria, Queensland and New South Wales.  (Melbourne’s A-League team is first, with Adelaide in second, Sydney in third, Perth in fourth and Brisbane in fifth.)

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Perth Wildcats on Yahoo!Groups

Posted by Laura on Tuesday, 9 February, 2010

There appears to be no New Zealand Breakers, Townsville Crocodiles, Wollongong Hawks  communities on Yahoo!Groups.  Thus, they do not get their own posts.

There are two groups on Yahoo dedicated to the Perth Wildcats: thewildcatsden and  perthwildcatssupportersclub.  Both were created in late 2000.  The first has 56 but has had exclusively spam content since late April 2001.  The second has three members, no real spam content and has had no new posts since April 10, 2001.  Between the two, there were 26 legitimate total posts.  I’m not graphing it because there really isn’t much variation and anything to suggest that for this small community ever really had a presence on the service; a one year pattern is unlikely to correlate with team performance.



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Melbourne Tigers on Yahoo!Groups

Posted by Laura on Tuesday, 9 February, 2010

I haven’t and won’t be doing a separate post for the Cairns Taipans and the Gold Coast Blaze.  There are no communities dedicated to them on Yahoo!Groups.

There are two groups dedicated to the NBL team Melbourne Tigers: melbournetigers and Melb_Tigers.  The first has ten members and was founded on July 4, 2001.  The second has one member and was founded on July 25, 2006.  Melb_Tigers has never had any activity.  melbournetigers in contrast has had a total of six posts, with all posting having stopped by October 18, 2002.  There really isn’t enough activity to speak to any posting trends.

melbournetigers has never had any spam posting and when you look at the membership, it looks like it has been free of spam posters joining.   Only three posters have joined since that activity ended.  Of those three, one is from Victoria, Australia.

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Brisbane Bullets on Yahoo!Groups

Posted by Laura on Tuesday, 9 February, 2010

Like the Adelaide 36ers, there is one group on Yahoo!Groups dedicated to the Brisbane Bullets: BrisbaneBullets.  It was created on March 2, 2007 and has three members. It can be found in the Australia category. Unlike the 36ers list, this group has some posting, the first of which was made on November 4, 2008.  Sadly, all this activity is spam related from two people.  It looks like the founder never posted.

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Adelaide 36ers on Yahoo!Groups

Posted by Laura on Tuesday, 9 February, 2010

I’ve not been updating here much of late because of some real life issues.  Fun fun. If anyone wants a copy of the data I have so far, please let me know.

That said, I searched for the Adelaide 36ers on Yahoo!Groups.  There is one list dedicated to the team: 36ers. It was created on March 19, 2003.  It has one member and there have never been any posts to the list.  The list appears in the general basketball category.

Even with one member, the community size on Yahoo!Groups is bigger than that of the LiveJournal clones.

It will be interesting to see how the size of the community here compares to the other NBL teams.

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NBL Facebook team fandom by city and state

Posted by Laura on Wednesday, 3 February, 2010

This post is similar to the one for the ANZ Championship where I went to Facebook, found all the relevant fanpages and groups for a team, got their member lists, identified the city or country that a network was based out of and then counted added those together. This collection of teams is much, much bigger with about 200 cities or so and Microsoft MapPoint didn’t do a very good job as it missed 119 cities when Cairns and the Gold Coast are excluded. This makes things a bit tricky when trying to determine the geographic distribution of the community on Facebook. (Added to that, Map Point doesn’t want to put Cairns and the Gold Coast on the same map.)

One thing to note before looking at this, I’ve again excluded non-Australian and non-Kiwi members. If I was doing work for these teams professionally though? I would really target international student populations at the major universities and at high schools where there are high school exchange students. It looks like these fans account for a fair amount of fans on Facebook. Once they leave Australia though, those fans begin to lose value as the chance to monetize them is much less effective. They can add numbers to official Facebook fan pages but they aren’t likely to generate revenue. If a team’s goal is to convert people into potential ticket buyers, this is a problem. (For leagues such as the NRL and AFL where there is an international television agreement, I’d advise them make occasional posts reminding their non-native audience how they can tune in, encourage them to demand that their local satellite and cable providers give them access to these games to watch.)

Onwards with maps…

NBL  fandom by state

Overview map

NBL fandom by state

220
110
0
Adelaide 36ers
Cairns Taipans
Gold Coast Blaze
Melbourne Tigers
New Zealand Breakers
Perth Wildcats
South Melbourne Dragons
Townsville Crocodiles
Wollongong Hawks

NBL by  City

Overview map

NBL by city

70
8
1
Adelaide 36ers
Melbourne Tigers
New Zealand Breakers
Perth Wildcats
South Melbourne Dragons
Townsville Crocodiles
Wollongong Hawks

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